sandramcdonald ([info]sandramcdonald) wrote,
@ 2008-07-19 08:09:00
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Readercon day 2
- The panel on Farah Mendohlson's book Rhetorics of Fantasy had some audio problems but I was much taken with John Clute, who talked about the intrusive fantasy as seduction and had lots of other insightful things to say, most of which are scribbled on the back of my con envelope all the way on the other side of the hotel room right now. I'm a new Clute fangirl. He should invite me to his Camden Town flat so I can listen to him talk like that more.

- Excellent readings by Daryl Gregory and David Anthony Durham. Daryl's first book Pandemonium comes out soon and it's going to be lots of fun. David, Liz Gorinsky, Michaela Roessner and I also did the panel on David's move from historical literary fiction into the fantasy/sf ghetto, which I very much enjoyed.

- Celia Tan and Dora Goss on the panel re competent writing vs. great writing had some insightful things to say about a writer's Voice, which I have long believed to be distinct from a writer's style. Go Voice!

- Lethem's interview by GVG was funny and insightful, though again Salon F had some audio problems. Lethem said he always wanted to do different genres, insomuch as he believes in genre at all, so it's not as if his "Muse took him elsewhere," as people have said. He rattled off dozens of his influences and omg, I've got to get out of my own reading preferences a little more. Lethem also said Chabon is much more a fanboy than he is. Go Chabon!

- The YA Why So Dark panel pretty much wrapped up in its first few minutes for me with Nick Mamatas and others pointing out the difference between dark and dark trappings, and then I had to go to a reading anyway, so good job.

- The Prose party was loud and lovely even if I skipped the first part because of a headache. The entire con continues to be well run and well attended, so kudos to the organizers and their hard work. I met some women at the party who'd come 15 hours on a bus from Ontario to attend; that's just awesome.

- And oh yes, I do believe what I said in the MFA panel, that no program. no workshop, no class, etc, can make you a better writer, just like no art history class can make you a better painter. What MFA and others do, most excellently, is mold you into a better reader, more able to engage with a text. They sharpen your critical thinking abilities and challenge your aesthetics. The process of becoming a better writer is something that starts with butt in chair and fingers on keyboard, and continues on for hundreds of thousands if not millions of words constantly reinvented each day, and you don't need an MFA program for that at all.



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[info]sartorias
2008-07-19 02:38 pm UTC (link)
Cool! Thanks for the panel report!

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[info]sandramcdonald
2008-07-20 01:00 pm UTC (link)
You're welcome! I'm glad you liked it.

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[info]tabby333
2008-07-19 03:57 pm UTC (link)
you don't need an MFA program for that at all

This is true.

But then, sitting and writing day after day is also not necessarily going to make you a better writer, either. Plenty of evidence of that all around us.

Neither do I think an MFA program is necessarily going to make you a better reader. You can be shown the skills, but that doesn't mean you can learn how to apply them, no matter how much your read (similar to being taught writing). Besides, no one really needs an MFA program, either, to learn how to be a better reader.

Ultimately, what I heard at the panel is that all you really get from an MFA program is an opportunity to be a part of a writing community for two years with a chance to get some insight on how others approach the art.

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[info]sandramcdonald
2008-07-20 01:01 pm UTC (link)
You're right -- the best part of an MFA is the ability to put writing and community to the forefront for a short time. I miss that.

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[info]desperance
2008-07-19 06:31 pm UTC (link)
He should invite me to his Camden Town flat so I can listen to him talk like that more.

He talks like that all the time. Just try to corner him sometime at the con, he's very approachable. (Me, I have been to his Camden Town flat. *brags* Not while he was actually there, unfortunately - */brags* - but Judith was. *brags again*

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[info]sandramcdonald
2008-07-20 01:03 pm UTC (link)
I went to his kaffeeklatch and took his picture later in the dealer's room. Fascinating guy. His later panel was less successful for me because the room was overcrowded and hot and I couldn't hear him very well.

Yay for Camden Town! I'm actually wearing a ring this week I got at the market 2 trips to London ago. When I lived in London in college I only got there once or twice, but now I want to go all the time.

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[info]charmingbillie
2008-07-19 06:36 pm UTC (link)
Yay, Daryl! I'm looking forward to his book.

Glad you're having a good time!

So what is the difference between style and voice?

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[info]sandramcdonald
2008-07-20 01:05 pm UTC (link)
Style can be imitated; voice is unique. Voice is the sum of all a writer is and the messages they want to convey, whether they're aware of it or not. It is the woman or man behind the curtain, not the curtain itself.

I can be more eloquent on it later, but that's the gist.

Daryl and Paolo both seem to be having a fab time and are a big hit! I actually think they should do a road show . . .

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